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Understanding the Winnipeg STV provincial election -- understanding the vote transfers table in Wiki "1927 Manitoba election"

The count table protraying the 1927 Winnipeg provincial election is flawed in that each count in the table does two purposes - for instance, transferring votes that arise from both an elimination and an election of a member, and that.


Here is a translation of the Counts in the Wiki table as compared to the Counts in the actual election.


First count (quota: 4610)


Count 2 in the table refers to the 2nd and 3rd Count in the original vote count.

Second count: Haig surplus (498 votes) transferred (Evans declared elected)

Third count: Robson surplus (252 votes) transferred


Count 3 in the table refers to the 4th Count. Fourth count: Evans surplus (225 votes) transferred


Count 4 in the table refers to the 5th Count. Fifth count: James eliminated


Count 5 in the table refers to the 6th Count Sixth count: MacLean eliminated


Count 6 in the table refers to the 7th Count Seventh count: Sedziak eliminated


Count 7 in the table refers to the 8th Count Eighth count: Cartwright eliminated


Count 8 in the table refers to the 9th Count Ninth count: Gillespie eliminated


Count 9 in the table refers to the 10th Count Tenth count: Moore eliminated


Count 10 in the table refers to the 11th Count Eleventh count: Steinkopf eliminated


Count 11 in the table refers to the 12th Count Twelfth count: Maybank eliminated (Queen declared elected)


Count 12 in the table refers to the 13th and 14th Counts.

Thirteenth count: Queen surplus (21 votes) transferred

Fourteenth count: Lindal eliminated


Count 13 in the table refers to the 15th Count. Fifteenth count: Durward eliminated (1086 votes went to Farmer)(Farmer declared elected)


Count 14 in the table refers to the 16th and 17th Counts.

Sixteenth count: Farmer surplus (766 votes) transferred

Seventeenth count: Burritt eliminated (Major received 934 votes)[5] (Major declared elected)


Count 15 in the table refers to the 18th and 19th Counts.

Eighteenth count: Major surplus transferred

Nineteenth count: Cameron eliminated


Count 16 in the table refers to the 20th Count. Twentieth count: Penner eliminated


Count 17 in the table refers to the 21st Count.

Twenty-first count (Hunt eliminated):

  • (incumbent)John Thomas Haig (C) 4610

  • Hugh Robson (L) 4610

  • (incumbent)William Sanford Evans (C) 4610

  • (incumbent)John Queen (ILP) 4610

  • (incumbent)Seymour Farmer (ILP) 4610

  • William Major (P) 4610

  • (incumbent)Edith Rogers (L) 4764 (elected) (surplus not transferred as the number involved would not change order of other candidates)

  • (incumbent)William Ivens (ILP) 4007

  • William Tobias (C) 3685

  • Edward Montgomery (P) [number not listed]

  • (incumbent)J.K. Downes (Ind [Moderationist]) 3411


Count 18 in the table refers to the final stage after the 21st Count.

Downes eliminated. No transfer done as number of remaining candidates is same as number of remaining open seats.


Final standings of elected candidates: 3 Conservatives, 3 ILP, 2 Liberal, 2 Progressives

  • (incumbent)John Haig (C) 4610 (4610 is quota)

  • Hugh Robson (L) 4610

  • (incumbent)William Sanford Evans (C) 4610

  • (incumbent)John Queen (ILP) 4610

  • (incumbent)Seymour Farmer (ILP) 4610

  • William Major (P) 4610

  • (incumbent) Edith Rogers (L) 4610 (or 4764)

  • (incumbent)William Ivens (ILP) 4700 (more than quota but surplus not transferred because seats are filled)

  • William Tobias (C) 4114 (elected with partial quota)

  • Edward Montgomery (P) 3960 (elected with partial quota)


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